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I am really loving the interaction from you fans with the comments on the shoots! thank you so much for putting your input in. I noticed many of the comments on Daisy vs Ruckus questioning how Daisy and Ruckus tied for round one. It is undeniable that Daisy dominated in the submissions for this round. There is no argument here. First I want to give you some background on how I developed the rules for evolved fights before I go into how Ruckus at a 10 pt round 1. I have competed in tournament and competitions both in the professional sports circuit as well as the underground fetish circuits. Most competitions in both those areas are submission wrestling rules where the first person to get a submission wins and if there is no submission in a set amount of time, then the opponent with the most points wins. These rule sets work fine for sports. You will almost always have a winner. Someone will get submissions or someone will score points from getting takedowns transitions or top positions. In my experience with professional sports, I’ve been put in “open divisions” where every winner of his or her division moves to the “open” and all the winners compete regardless of weight class, against each other. So you have people of equal skill going up against all the winners of their weight divisions. I would often see big giant people dominate the entire match up until the final seconds only to be tapped out by smaller opponents. This is amazing to see indeed. When you have thousands of competitors competing in a day, this makes for exciting and efficient rules for their tournament. However, I always thought it was sad that records at the end of the day only reflected that one guy one and one guy lost, the didn’t reflect if it was a close match or a real fight. The rules and scoring system I created are intended to reflect that a battle has occurred; that it wasn’t a one-sided match. When I ran ultimate Surrender, I inherited a complex scoring system which to this day after the site was up for 15 years, most members still have no idea how the matches where the score and Jesus it was difficult to explain to the models how to win. If you are not familiar with some of the rules here are some examples ( a wrestler is given 2 points for every 30 seconds of control, a wrestler is awarded 1 pt every 2seconds while fingers are in the pussy but the wrestler must have control to be able to finger, a wrestler gets 1 point per second with tongue down the throat -kissing). I had zero interest in following those set of rules, it’s a lot of keeping track of time rather than keeping track of the safety of the models. I’m a huge fan of the boxing and MMA style point system. 10 pts are awarded to the winner of the round 9 or fewer to the loser of the round. Easy! Many of you are very familiar with this system so I do not need to go into that. I think where the confusion is coming in as many of you are coming from the “submission wrestling” matches that are predominant in the wrestling genre. Combatants go at it for a set amount of time and whoever has the most submissions at the end of the match is the winner. That works for fetish shoots, they are fun to shoot. However, I didn’t want a submission wrestling site. I wanted a sex fight site. I want to reward people for having control and pinning during matches. In my experience, someone pulling guard is a bitch move. I reward the fighters who can pin the opponent who pulls guard. Unless someone uses the guard to sweep or transition, they typically just hold the opponent in between their legs and use it as a stalling tactic. It’s a bitch move and even venues like EBI have taken note of this and have penalties when someone does this. EBI has created their own rule set to “pressure action”. We have followed this example to “pressure-sexual-action”. What we don’t want: Someone with superior submission wrestling skills to win a sex fight. While I love and encourage people of all skill set to come to our mats and try this athletism, It isn’t very fun to watch someone just tap, tap tap tap tap someone over and over. We implemented the 20 seconds of sexual activity after a tap, to make our submission experts do sexual stuff. However, during the 20 seconds, the sexual stuff is NOT looked as sexual dominance in the judges’ eyes because the person who submitted is not allowed to fight back at all. I personally feel that having someone pinned on the mat shows much more dominance than getting someone to tap out from pain or danger or because they actually want the 20-second penalty so they can get their dick sucked. being on top shows dominance. licking a pussy while it’s on your face shows sexual aggression however having someone sit on your face and having them fuck your face shows that THAT opponent sexually dominated you. Let me use the blow job examples: Let’s say you are standing up and a girl comes over and grabs your dick and starts sucking it…..She is aggressively sucking you off……she is fucking your dick with her mouth. How to let’s say you grab her head and make her suck your dick harder and deeper….now you are fucking her face with your mouth. It’s a subtle difference but it’s definitely there. We have 3 judges on the set. We take the average of their scores to determine the score of each round. We legitimately had one judge give 10-9 Daisy, one judge had it a tie. As with boxing and MMA sometimes there are bad calls by referees and or judges. I wish I could say evolved fights is big enough that corruption has hit our judges but that’s not the case. It could be that the judges only remembered the last minute of the round and put favor for one fighter over the other. One thing is for sure, This was hands down one of the greatest sex fights I’ve ever seen. The fact it went to a decision and Ruckus and Daisy had to sex fight to determine the winner and then we had an orgasm on the mats…well….that’s unprecedented. It was truly exciting for me as a ref and while editing the video.

Comments
RhinoBeetle
02/04/2019
Thanks for the clarification. Before reading this I would have scored the first round in Daisy’s favor, even though I was rooting for Ruckus. I mistakenly thought that submissions were worth more than pins. Like you said, the last time I did any wrestling it was BJJ, where submissions were the only thing counted.
Ariel
02/04/2019
I've developed hybrid rules for sex fighting.
RhinoBeetle
02/04/2019
As a fan and customer, I appreciate your willingness to to explain things that cause fans confusion or dissatisfaction, as well as offering a glimpse into how things work behind the scenes. I’ve been wondering something for months; is there a behind-the-scenes reason why you have booked so many bouts where the man was obviously at a huge disadvantage, and his defeat was entirely predictable?
Ariel
02/04/2019
If it's a brand new girl I haven't worked with I will purposefully book her with a guy so that she will win to help build her confidence so she wants to come back. If girls have a miserable first shoot, they will not return and that's no good for you fans. Sometimes, The guys lie to me and say they have wrestling experience so I think the guy may win but then when they get on the mats, the guy totally sucks..
RhinoBeetle
02/05/2019
I know Sam Solo lied - did Jay West, Marcelo, and Tony Orlando all do the same? If so, why have they been repeatedly booked with formidable women after it became clear they don’t know what they’re doing? Did they ask for those bookings?
Ariel
02/07/2019
Jay, Tony and Marcelo are all booked because they are safe ( not spaztic ) They are also local for me and keep good tests. I get a large number of last-minute cancellations for various reason ( missed flights, not testing in time, hangovers....you know...the norm) So when that happens I rely on these guys to fill in. I will have Sam back. I like him. But he is not local and flights cost a lot!
RhinoBeetle
02/19/2019
Thank you again for being willing to explain these things. It shows that you value your customers and fans.I have a related BTS question: What’s the story behind the matches pitting men with a little bit of wrestling skill and experience (Will Havoc, Billy Boston) against women with a ton (Mistress Kara, Cheyenne Jewel)? I have a hard time believing you thought they stood a chance.
RhinoBeetle
02/20/2019
I agree that someone who has a miserable first shoot isn’t likely to come back for another, but losing doesn’t necessarily have to be miserable. I mean, the guys who lose keep coming back, despite all the abuse and humiliation they receive. Is it possible you could ask new girls if they really mind losing the fight? If they don’t mind losing, could you then book them with men who are likely to win, but are also safe, good-natured, and likely to treat them gently in the prize round? (I.e. Shawn Fox, Max Blunts, Will Tile, and probably Chad Diamond & Rick Fantana)
RhinoBeetle
02/20/2019
Another suggestion, if you don’t mind. Could we have some matches pitting men who have proven themselves equal to top tier women - Jack Friday, Sebastian Keys, Shawn Fox, Max Blunts, & Ruckus - against women who are good, but not that good? What I mean is, women who are somewhat experienced (ex. Kelli Provocateur, Annie Cruz, Mia Li, Yasmine Loven, Angel Allwood) somewhat talented (ex. Gabriella Paltrova, Tori Avano, Serene Siren, Lea Lexis, Adrianna Nicole, Jayogen, Sophia Fiore, Rilynn Rae) and/or physically imposing (ex. Brandi Mae, Jasmeen Lefleur, Lux Lives, Rocky Emerson) but none of whom are quite at the elite veteran level. The such matchups would likely result in male victories without being totally one-sided. To be clear, I’m not suggesting you only do matches like this - just enough to balance out the lopsided score.
fan
02/24/2019
Since there is a reward component to submissions leading to the 20 second penalty... they should count more.